some comments over the topic got from zambiasosso: 1....Why scientific racism has not been confined to history
The front page of the Independent last week
The comment by James Watson boldly displayed on the front page of the
Independent newspaper last week that: Africans Are Less Intelligent
Than Westerners should serve as a reminder that we need to challenge
the legacies of the past.
It seems that nearly everyone - including people of
African descent, are only too happy to bury their heads in the sand, to
dismiss the notion that we are still affected by the legacies of
chattel enslavement and colonization and to buy into the false notion
that we live in an equitable world that is mostly free of racism and
inequality, yet are the first to become outraged when views like the
one expressed by James Watson make it into the public domain.
They jump up and down and complain that no other
race would ever be subjected to such insult and ridicule and circulate
stories and emails to friends and associates on the internet telling
them to write a letter of complaint, sign a petition or something,
demanding that the offending person, in this case, James Watson, be
fired, ostracised, denounced, etc. But while these passionate protests
are being directed at one individual, the systematic process that
produced racist theories in the first place goes unchallenged and
remains intact until the next time someone else decides to make a
similar claim. In other words, by failing to
challenge and hold to account the historical processes that produced
these theories, these protestors are complicit in the perpetuation of
these theories and it is time that people recognised this. I am by no
means suggesting that James Watson should not be challenged as an
individual and held to account for his offensive and inaccurate
statement - but take down the man and another will follow - we need to
take down the system.
It is ironic that whilst the newspapers were busy
preparing the story to emblazon the front pages last week - I was busy
playing host and facilitator at a debate at the same venue that Watson
was due to speak at. The event, Scientific Racism: A History was
intended as a wake-up call, that scientific racism sowed the seeds of
global white supremacy by using science to divide the human family into
separate and unequal races, to institutionalize the concept of white
superiority and black inferiority on a biological and intellectual
level.
2......The only crime Africans have is that we are
too forgiving as a nation. This is why these idiots can have the nerve
to say these things. i would like them to say a racist remark like this
to jewish people or the Islam nation. There would be a price to pay.
Western countries have the best african doctors, engineers who were
educated in African countries. We as professionals are contributing
greatly to their economy--------------that makes us less intelligent
huh. Some times white people have a nerve. One
thing that annoys be is that people who talk like this are everywhere (
some of them are our friends and talk in this manner when their black
friends are not around). just as we travel to the west to find jobs
they too travel south to find jobs---to make a lot of money and screw
the countries ---this side of things is not talked about. 3.....Nobel-winner Watson quits lab after controversial race remarks
NEW YORK - James Watson, famous for DNA research
but widely condemned for recent comments about intelligence levels
among blacks, retired Thursday from his post at a prestigious research
institution. Watson, 79, and the Cold Spring
Harbor Laboratory in New York announced his departure a week after the
lab suspended him. He was chancellor of the institution, and his
retirement took effect immediately. Watson
shared a Nobel Prize with Francis Crick and Maurice Wilkins in 1962 for
co-discovering the structure of the DNA molecule. He is one of
America's most prominent scientists. In his
statement Thursday, Watson said that because of his age, his retirement
was "more than overdue. The circumstances in which this transfer is
occurring, however, are not those which I could ever have anticipated
or desired." Watson, who has a long history of
making provocative statements, ran into trouble last week for remarks
he made in the Sunday Times Magazine of London. A profile quoted him as
saying that he's "inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa"
because "all our social policies are based on the fact that their
intelligence is the same as ours - whereas all the testing says not
really." He said that while he hopes everyone
is equal, "people who have to deal with black employees find this is
not true." He also said people should not be discriminated against
because of their color, adding that "there are many people of color who
are very talented."
Watson later apologized. But by then, London's
Science Museum had canceled a sold-out lecture Watson was to give
there, and London's mayor had branded the comments "racist propaganda."
In the United States, the Federation of American
Scientists said Watson was promoting "personal prejudices that are
racist, vicious and unsupported by science." And the Cold Spring Harbor
lab said its board and administration "vehemently disagree with these
statements and are bewildered and saddened if he indeed made such
comments." The lab suspended Watson's administrative duties last Thursday. Watson had served at the lab for nearly 40 years, having been named director in 1968. He was its president from 1994 to 2003.
4.......Deborah Gabriel is my fav. I like what she says because I have
identified bravery and resolve in this woman, more than in many people
I know. one thing I believe is she has become a believer.
once upon a time I used to post bits and pieces to them. once, they
published one of my articles and the next few days were dealing with
hacking assaults on their website, and I think even attacks in their
own personal lives. this kind of thing has been happening in
my life for a long time, with various websites, for example
Africaonline.com, tbwt.org, allafrica.com, etc. what these
other websites did was to make distance with the one causing them to be
attacked, to save their rear ends, whereas what blackbritain did was
the exact opposite, which is what conscious people do because they
realize taking the other option is not a mere cope out, it is
supporting the very people whose agenda means your demise. i'll take my hat off to her anytime, maybe even bow, depending on my mood. she, and the crew at blackbritain, are my heros.
sad thing about this is it takes actual evidence of something happening
to someone for someone to become a believer. my question to all is: how
in heaven's name to you discount as delusion a grown, coherent man's
tale of what is happening to him? this is a grown person who is telling
you these things are happening and you refuse to believe him? on
account of what? anyway... slowly, we will get there, and
hopefully our children will not have to face the devil head on as I and
so many other black people do. hopefully we will learn where we are
being outwitted, where the game is being played out on us.
5......Lisa: I can see why Dr. Watson said what he said and I think you
are to blame for why he stated it. He only referred to Africans so
perhaps, he was only really talking about you and not black Americans,
Carribbeans,e tc. You Africans are so competitive and
viscious and nasty - that you favor these sorts of stereotypes when
they are seemingly are only directed at black Americans, Carribeans. i.
e. Look at Mukolwe's use of the term "akata" or "wench" or Fitty
Ngwee's use of the term "nappy headed ho" and his admiration for Imus.
You admire the white man even after HE has oppressed your continent
with your own invitation and help. You denigrate black Americans and
others simply because they were the victims of white and African
racists. You come to America - not because are the best and the
brightest as you state - with regard to your doctors and engineers -
but because you admire the white man and to a certain extent - do want
to be his puppet, his worker, and his "nappy headed Ho". When the White
man gives you a job - you SWEAR that you are better than black
Americans even though your Countries that you RULE are in a shambles.
You swear that the white man wants the best and brightest - but he does
not - he wants a worker - a Sambo - a willing slave -a white man's bitch - and a nappy headed ho like Fitty Ngwee.
You Zambians will come to the US and the West because you are failures
in your own land - do not know how to Rule yourselves and your country,
do not produce anything or any knowledge - and you want the white man
to give you a job. You do and say anything and even support
and do and say anything - even and especially if it is untruthful,
dishonest, and racist - because you want to climb the white man's
corporate ladder rather than own your own - and you want to feel
superior. You obviously are looking for the white man's
approval - or else we would not have so many of your "doctors" and
others coming here to the US looking for a job So you see,
Lisa - you are part of the problem. You see yourself in compettion with
Black Americans and Carribeans - that you support these racist
ideologies when you privelages you vis a vis black Americans and
Carribeans. Mr. Watson is simply uttering the propaganda that many of you like Mukolwe, Kolykolo and Fitty Ngwee spew. I don't support Mr. Watson's idea that Africans are genetically inferior and dumb.
Hwoever, I do think that Mukolwe and Fitty Ngwee and many racist
Zambians are dumb - because of what they've failed to produce and
acheive and score. You need to impress the world with actual
knowledge production and actual acheivements and with what you've built
- rather than with what you've tried to destroy. Right now -
we look at your countries and have seen how you have failed to build
them and in fact destroyed them - and we see how many of you Africans
like Mukolowe and Fitty Ngwee - have no productive capacity but are
very negative and are destroyers rather than builders.
6.......I really do not want to turn this into
another African american vs Africa debat!!! My defending Africans is
one aspect. I have met many educated intelligent African Americans as
well. An This man attacked every BLACK person and as one of the many
black scientists who is pretty good in their fields, he is talking
crap.. Its pure racism. You know I have been
coming on this web because its nice to hear other people's point of
view. We have always had different opinions and it has been
interesting, Do not take this the wrong way but you keep bringing up
the African-black American issue. You are very angry!!!!You seem to
have had a bad experience with Africans that have come your way.
instead of being on the defensive all the time, maybe try to chat to
us, get to know us. its a great website. I have lived in my country and
all over the world and have met people from different backgrounds
(including African Americans) and races. I can say am blessed to have
the opportunity to learn so much from most people. I have deep respect
for different cultures and way of living. i
seem to get the feeling you are on the site to tell us how low we are
compared to you African-Americans just because you had a bad experience
with a few Africans. If that is the case, please just sign out of the
website and allow us to carry on with this site the way its been for
years. I truelly wish you peace and may God bless you. |